{"id":4142,"date":"2015-11-05T01:00:39","date_gmt":"2015-11-05T08:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/?p=4142"},"modified":"2015-11-05T08:01:40","modified_gmt":"2015-11-05T15:01:40","slug":"so-youve-earned-that-mfa-now-what","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/so-youve-earned-that-mfa-now-what\/","title":{"rendered":"So you\u2019ve earned that MFA, now what?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Guest Blogger Ron Salisbury talks about MFA &#8211; Master of Fine Arts writing programs.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>Everywhere I go, I\u2019m asked if I think the universities stifle writers. My opinion is that they don\u2019t stifle enough of them. There\u2019s many a best seller that could have been prevented by a good teacher<\/em>.\u201d\u2013Flannery O\u2019Connor<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Flannery may be a little tough but not far wrong. What will you do with your MFA in poetry or fiction or non-fiction or children\u2019s literature? Is it different from what you thought you would do before you started that MFA program?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The proliferation of Master of Fine Arts Writing Programs in the United States (some 200 as of this writing) requires new crops of students every year; cannon fodder, inductees to charge over the lip of the trench into the guns of Admission Departments and Student Loans without much chance of becoming that famous author, a goal which is implied but never stated by these programs. (Is that what you thought you\u2019d learn at that program?)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">When I started my MFA \u2013 Poetry program in 2013, I had few of those allusions given my age (70) and narrative style of poetry. I was not going to be offered that tenure track teaching position in some MFA program. At best, I would get some adjunct position. (the typical pay for a semester class as an adjunct is $2000 to $3000 with no guarantee of any future work) And would hope to worm my way into the hearts and pockets of the program directors and students. Last year the United States graduated approximately 2,000 poetry MFAs, 2,000 fiction and between 500 to 1,000 non-fiction and other. And there were less than forty tenure tract creative writing positions available in those universities and colleges. But, I did naively expect that in my program I would be among poets striving to become better poets. What I have mostly found is a cadre of wonderful people learning \u201chow\u201d to write poetry. My observations have been generally supported by other writers in other programs throughout the United States.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">To\u00a0 satisfy the body count necessary for these 200+ programs, the threshold has been considerably lowered. If your goal is to teach in an MFA program, anecdotally, minimal requirements today are the MFA degree and two published books at least. If one or both books were contest winners, so much the better. Given the proliferation of book publishing options today such as high quality appearing print-on-demand and self-published, the vetting process for MFA instructors\u2014ones skilled and with enough notoriety to attract students\u2014has become more difficult for universities. It used to be just a book from a good publisher and you could be considered, then it became the book and the MFA. Now the field is murky. Which has led to an entirely new phenomenon, the PhD in Creative Writing which has begun to propagate much as the MFA programs did fifteen-twenty years ago (today, about 32 programs). It would not be a surprise to discover in less than ten years that the minimum requirement to be considered as an instructor in an MFA program is the book or two and the Creative Writing PhD. So, if you have a goal to obtain an MFA in Creative Writing and do more with it than hang it on your wall, continue to work at Starbucks or teach two classes of freshman composition at some Junior College, hurry.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Your Turn:<\/strong> Should you or shouldn&#8217;t you join an MFA program? Have you done it? What do you think? Weigh in. Post your writing on <a href=\"http:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Write Spot Blog<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/Miss-Desert-Inn.-Salisbury.180.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3524 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/Miss-Desert-Inn.-Salisbury.180.jpg\" alt=\"Miss Desert Inn. Salisbury.180\" width=\"180\" height=\"275\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/mainstreetragbookstore.com\/?product=miss-desert-inn\" target=\"_blank\">Ron Salisbury<\/a> lives in\u00a0 San Diego, CA where he continues to publish, write and study in San Diego State University\u2019s Master of Fine Arts program, Creative Writing. Publications and awards include: Eclipse, The Cape Reader, Serving House Journal, Alaska Quarterly Review, Spitball, Soundings East, The Briar Cliff Review, Hiram Poetry Review, A Year in Ink, etc; Semi Finalist for the Anthony Hecht Poetry Prize \u2013 2012, Finalist for the ABZ First Book Contest \u2013 2014, First Runner-up for the Brittingham and Pollak Prize in Poetry \u2013 2014, Winner of Main Street Rag\u2019s 2015 Poetry Prize<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mainstreetragbookstore.com\/?s=Ron+Salisbury\" target=\"_blank\">Miss Desert Inn<\/a> published November 2015.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Guest Blogger Ron Salisbury talks about MFA &#8211; Master of Fine Arts writing programs. \u201cEverywhere I go, I\u2019m asked if I think the universities stifle writers. My opinion is that they don\u2019t stifle enough of them. There\u2019s many a best seller that could have been prevented by a good teacher.\u201d\u2013Flannery O\u2019Connor Flannery may be a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"sfsi_plus_gutenberg_text_before_share":"","sfsi_plus_gutenberg_show_text_before_share":"","sfsi_plus_gutenberg_icon_type":"","sfsi_plus_gutenberg_icon_alignemt":"","sfsi_plus_gutenburg_max_per_row":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[104],"tags":[742,743,342],"class_list":["post-4142","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-guest-bloggers","tag-miss-desert-inn","tag-ron-salisbury","tag-the-write-spot-blog"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p43Dj8-14O","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4142","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4142"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4142\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4169,"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4142\/revisions\/4169"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4142"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4142"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thewritespot.us\/marlenecullenblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4142"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}